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1964 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight

Price: US $3,350.00

1964 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight

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Interior Color:Blue
Fuel Type:Gasoline
Exterior Color:Blue
Vehicle Title:Clean
Drive Type:RWD
Body Type:Coupe
Number of Cylinders:8
Warranty:Vehicle does NOT have an existing warranty
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Car location:Roberts Creek, British Columbia, Canada
For Sale By:Private Seller
Last update:23.05.2021

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BUYER'S GUIDE1[hidden information] Oldsmobile Dynamic Eighty-EightSixties-era full-size car offering unique styling and plenty of power, but for little money
They sit in the middle ground--nestled between Chevrolet and Buick, and often overlooked in favor of a Pontiac. But though often neglected, Oldsmobile's affordable point of entry into the full-size field of early Sixties cars carried the Dynamic Eighty-Eight badge for several years as the company steered its sculptured creations towards America's growing families.Rather utilitarian in intent, yet undeniably stylish and surprisingly sporty, they sold quite well. But as once-new cars migrated from being unwanted used cars to vintage treasures in the years following their introduction, demand by old car enthusiasts never really took off, especially when compared to their much preferred Impala and Bonneville cousins. For too many years, Dynamic Eighty-Eights have been looked upon as simply big old American barges. As a result, values have remained relatively low--with the exception of the convertible model in recent years. This bodes well for collectors on a budget who want to get into a rarely seen GM-built Sixties car at a down-to-earth price.ENGINES According to Oldsmobile Club of America member Jim Anthony, who specializes in 1962-'64 full-size models, there are a few things potential buyers should be aware of. "These engines--even two-barrel variants--were very responsive to a driver's demands, but if the oil wasn't changed regularly, the oil return lines would clog up, which eventually lead to rocker arm wear. Also, the piston rings would then have a tendency to break, causing severe wear in the cylinder bores.
"To keep the oil return from clogging up, some owners would straighten a coat hanger and jam it in, knocking all the deposits into the bottom of the oil pan. Simple maintenance was actually the key to a smooth-running engine. However, I've seen them go 100,000 miles before a rebuild, while others made it only 60,000; it all came down to maintenance. The good news is that the V-8 is still a rebuildable engine today."
Displacing 394 cubic inches each, three variants were offered, all of which had a bore and stroke of 4.125 x 3.688 inches and hydraulic lifters. The base V-8 produced 280hp and 430-lbs.ft. of torque due to its Rochester two-barrel carburetor and 10.25:1 compression ratio.For those buyers who wanted maximum economy, a no-cost option was a 394 featuring reduced compression of 8.75 that cut horsepower and torque ratings to 260 and 410, respectively. This enabled the engine to run on regular gas, rather than premium; it's this engine that resides in our feature car.An optional performance version with a Rochester four-barrel bumped output to 330hp and 440-lbs.ft. of torque. As was the case with this engine and the base engine, the power ratings of both V-8s remained unaltered for 1963-'64.TRANSMISSIONS We talked to Steve Peluso, a well-known expert on GM transmissions, who told us about several problems with the Roto Hydra-Matic automatic transmissions (which later on got the nickname "Slim Jim") used by Oldsmobile from 1961-'64. Up until 1963, they contained a less-than-durable aluminum governor, which was replaced by one made of steel in 1964. Also, because no torque converter was used, a damper plate was installed--it looks like a clutch disc with no lining--which had a tendency to crack. If it didn't, the retaining springs would get tired over a period of time, allowing the plate to work loose and eventually leading to a front seal leak. Back in the Seventies, a replacement damper plate cost less than $20; today, it'll cost you $200.Yet even these two demerits do not top the list of potential transmission problems. According to Steve, "The weakest link was the aluminum torus coupling that housed the neutral clutch; it would often fail. But that wasn't always the case. In all actuality, the Oldsmobile version versus Pontiac's seems to be more durable, at a repair rate of two to one; we've heard of several cases where the unit has lasted intact since the day it left the factory."On the surface, one might assume that this is the same unit installed in same-year Pontiac Catalina and Grand Prix models--but while internals are nearly identical, casing design and length difference prohibits interchangeability."Parts for these transmissions are readily available today, but they are not inexpensive," Steve said. "One thing to consider is the Model 10 filter; they are no longer being made and, as a result, what's left on the market commands anywhere from $50 to $75 each. The key to making a rebuilt unit last lies in the hands of the person doing the job. If they know what they are doing and take their time, it'll last."A three-speed manual transmission with the gear selector mounted on the steering column was also offered on the Dynamic Eighty-Eight.REAR AXLE Each model utilized a 9.25-inch differential containing hypoid gears and semi-floating axles. Standard final drive ratios varied with the choice of engine and transmission, which differed between model years. Owners who preferred to shift manually had a 3.23 rear gear fitted to their cars, while automatic-equipped cars in 1963 had either a 2.56 gear for the 280hp engine, or a 2.87 gear for the 330hp V-8. These ratios changed to a standard 3.08 in 1964. However, a wide range of optional ratios was available, as was a Positive-traction differential."This arrangement was the same system used on Pontiacs and other Oldsmobiles for several years already, and they are virtually bulletproof," Jim stated. "If you are looking for a Positive-traction unit today to replace the conventional unit, be prepared to pay an average of $1,000."SUSPENSION The typical double A-arm front suspension is trouble-free; the setup included a solid 1.09-inch diameter anti-roll bar to help eliminate body roll while cornering. GM suspensions have legendary durability, yet expected wear occurs to the moving components: ball joints, tie rod ends, bushings and shock absorbers.Chances are these items have already been replaced once by previous owners. One hint to look for is the manner in which the ball joints are mounted to the front A-arms; replacements are typically bolted in, rather than being riveted-in units from the factory. Parts are easy to find and very affordable.BRAKES On average, the Dynamic Eight-Eight weighed in at 4,190 pounds in 1963, and tipped the scales at roughly 100 pounds less for 1964. As a result, engineers continued to install the same 11-inch diameter cast-iron drums (utilized from 1959-'64 on most full-size Oldsmobiles) at all four corners to complement the self-adjusting hydraulic brake shoes. Because nearly 60 percent of the stopping power is contained up front, these drums measure 2.50 inches wide versus the two-inch width in the rear. As the Oldsmobile had by that point become a car aimed at the family man, another popular option among owners was power-assist.Today, replacement drums and shoes are easily obtained through specialty suppliers and corner parts stores. This also holds true for smaller components, such as the wheel cylinders, which were used from 1936-'66; their average cost is about $35 each. Rebuilt Bendix or Delco-Moraine master cylinders--Oldsmobile used both--cost about $150.BODY/FRAME Oldsmobile offered the Dynamic series in six body styles: a sedan, two hardtops, a convertible and two wagon variants (though wagons were constructed on the same chassis and used many of the same mechanicals, we'll remain focused on non-wagon configurations). Sedans missing the B-pillars were dubbed Holiday hardtops.Each was assembled atop a "Guard-Beam" frame of box design featuring four crossmembers and a 123-inch wheelbase. To help resist twisting, four torque boxes were installed at each corner. Though this generation of the Dynamic series originated in 1961, the 1963 convertible featured here--and its fixed-roof siblings--received a wider track measuring 62.2 inches front and 61 inches rear; this carried over to 1964.Dramatic, crisply peaked fenders and quarter panels were the dominant feature during this two-year span. Strikingly unique among the GM brands, magazine road tests claimed that they aided owners with regards to outermost body locations while driving. Noticeable changes to the body between model years were to the front grille and bumper, as well as the rear fascia and taillamp configuration. Also, body side moulding was lengthened and relocated higher on the beltline for 1964, while overall body length was extended from 214.4 to 215.3 inches.Jim told us that there are a few areas of concern, which tend to be origin-dependent. "Their frame was built much better--heavier, in fact--than in 1962, but it was still subject to rust in the snowbelt regions, particularly over the axles and just behind the front wheels."As far as the body is concerned, although the 1963 model appears similar to the '64 cars, their rear quarter panels and the front hood are actually different; however, the front fenders were identical."The body was also prone to rust in some locations, including the rear bumper, which is rather hard to come by today, and the trunklid. The trunklid for the '64 model, although the same as '63, had a caulking compound inserted between the metal panels rather than sound deadening, which may have helped cause the rusting problem." Jim also added: "Front fenders have a tendency to rust up top, which can be linked directly to poorly designed inner fenders. On the plus side, the rockers seem to be really stout, and doors never had a tendency to sag over time."INTERIOR The Dynamic was the entry-level model among Oldsmobile's full-size cars, which meant that standard items in the more upscale Starfire and Ninety-Eight models were extra-cost items here; this included power steering, power brakes and even an AM radio. Other accessories, such as seat belts, the rarely installed AM-FM radio, heater, white-wall tires and air conditioning easily nudged the sticker price over $4,000.Front and rear bench seats - no buckets were offered either year - were finished in pleated Morocceen vinyl or a combination of pleated Morocceen and cloth in eight color combinations (nine in 1964), except for the convertibles. Here, these same material combinations were restricted to four colors, along with four colors of fade-resistant fabric tops.According to Jim, Oldsmobile interiors were of high quality and usually more durable than most would assume. He did caution that wear does occur to the carpeting and seating material, depending upon how much the car has been used over the years. While NOS supplies continue to dry up, companies such as SMS Auto Fabrics have the ability to replicate both seating and door panel material. Carpet and headliners can also be obtained. A few smaller items, such as window crank handles costing $27 each, are also available. Dash switch knobs will have to be replated or sourced from parts cars."Items such as headlamp and power window switches are identical to switches used on other GM brands, so finding suitable replacements is not as difficult as one might think," Jim said. "It should also be noted that when these cars were new, they were well built as far as a lack of squeaks, rattles and driveline noise entering the cabin."PARTS If the Dynamic you find for sale is a plausible restoration candidate, mechanical and electrical concerns will be reasonably easy to address; practically every mechanical part is still available. Body and trim parts, on the other hand, are just not available new, nor is it likely that they will ever be reproduced. If you are in need of a replacement fender or quarter panel, you'll have to search junkyards, swap meets or check the Want Ads in The Journey, the magazine published by the Oldsmobile Club of America.

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